![]() Like, even though most maps in HR and AV have higher body counts than Plutonia, there are multiple ways to tackle the combat scenarios, and with a bit of practice and having a decent if not precise skill, they are not so overwhelming. It really depends on who you ask, like the volume of enemies don't necessarily equate the difficulty, it can also be the level design as well. As you go through more WADs and find stuff you like, you can get the good combination of challenge and enjoyment that works for you. You can always circle back later or just declare some maps trash and never beat them. I haven't played half the stuff on the list but the half I do know is wildly placed in the order.Īs a note to OP, I recommend feeling free to skip maps a bit as you go if you're playing pistol start. It's not solely by Ribbiks and the maps range in difficulty. Also Magnolia is by Ribbiks and I don't really see why it's easier than his other stuff unless you're counting it on HMP. Even the harder maps are pretty fair and have been single segmented by a decent number of people. Yes it has 4-5 extremely hard maps but I'd say about half is pretty beatable with a bit of effort, even by my poor skills. Someone playing Plutonia for the first time might not know how to fight a pair of revenants or a surprise archvile consistently. Afterlife, Post Mortem, Fire and Ice are definitely as tough as most of tier 4. What map in Plutonia compares to those? Even if you're save scumming it's a different level of expectation from the player. ![]() I'd also not underrate Thy Flesh Consumed pistol start UV maxing on a couple of those maps is legitimately tough, probably as hard or harder than TNT in most cases.Īnd to add to that, some maps in Scythe 1 and Hell Revealed 1 are a lot tougher than anything in Plutonia. I'd say it's necessary to play before moving on to AV or HR because those WADs were also influenced by it as so many were. Even map 32 is probably easier than half of AV. It's more of a stepping stone from Doom 1/2 to later custom WADs than a big accomplishment these days. Plutonia has no hour long maps with over a thousand monsters. How do you have OG Plutonia and Alien Vendetta in the same category? Way way overrating the difficulty of Plutonia there. Hope this will give you an idea on which wads are within your friend's reach in Doom skill. ![]() Anything by Ribbiks (Sunlust, Swim With the Whales, etc.) Only the most elite of Doom players can be able to stomach them. Undoubtedly the most difficult, almost impossible wads to be ever created. Much more difficult and can even be overwhelming on Hurt Me Plenty without the right strategy. Play at your own risk. May not be accommodating for inexperienced players on Ultra-Violence, so Hurt Me Plenty would be the maximum difficulty to tackle, unless you're a Doom God. Offers more intense challenges than the previous wads listed, some with even more slaughtermaps. Plutonia and Hell Revealed are equally difficult but have their own challenges distinct from each other, while Alien Vendetta and Kama Sutra are harder than the two. Start first with Scythe 1 and/or the 3 heures d'agonie trilogy as they will prepare you for the style of gameplay of those aforementioned megawads. Note: Do not go for Plutonia, Hell Revealed, Alien Vendetta and Kama Sutra as they are pretty challenging than any of the wads listed in the category. Some maps within are slaughter maps featuring hordes of heavyweight enemies. Recommended to play on Hurt Me Plenty or lower first, then once you're skilled enough, you can give Ultra-Violence a go. These wads may be difficult for amateur players on Ultra-Violence. Significantly harder than Doom and Doom 2, but still manageable for amateur players on Ultra-Violence. ![]() Thy Flesh Consumed (The Ultimate Doom Episode 4) Though some can be a bit harder, they're not as difficult as Final Doom. These are wads that roughly on par with the difficulty of Doom and Doom 2. From there, I'll provide a list of wads that come to my mind as examples, sorted by difficulty, while excluding anything that may be too difficult like Sunlust and other wads like that. Since your friend has yet to beat Doom and Doom 2, I strongly recommend beating them before trying out anything else.
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